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[問題求助] 為什么數(shù)據(jù)纜的特性阻抗標(biāo)稱值是100?

P:2008-01-22 10:37:46

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在IEC61156和YD1019都數(shù)據(jù)纜的特性阻抗的標(biāo)稱值規(guī)定在100±5歐

有誰知道為什么標(biāo)稱值是100?如果過大對電纜性能有生命影響?如果過小對電纜性能有什么影響?

communication ball - 通信頻帶 (0) 投訴

P:2008-01-22 11:16:50

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有點難度

bimetallic conductor - 雙金屬導(dǎo)線 (0) 投訴

P:2008-01-22 11:32:32

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在這里給你提供一個想問題的思路!

一次參數(shù)和二次參數(shù)都是相互關(guān)聯(lián)的,

不能孤立的去看,去想特性阻抗為什么是100歐姆.

特性阻抗為100歐姆的時候其他傳輸參數(shù)才能獲得最優(yōu)值,更有利于傳輸性能.

 

 

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mlship 獎勵 10 金幣,.05 聲望,于 2008-1-23 10:32:01 原因:

styroflex - 聚苯乙烯(商名) (0) 投訴

P:2008-01-22 11:53:33

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CABLE得阻抗有50 / 75 / 100 ohms

 

radio communication system - 無線電通信系統(tǒng) (0) 投訴

P:2008-01-22 22:00:18

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100應(yīng)該是歐姆值  

all-fiber coupler - 全光纖耦合器 (0) 投訴

P:2008-01-23 08:48:00

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3樓說的精僻,到位.

BASEC - British Approval Service for Electric Cable英國電纜認(rèn)證機(jī)構(gòu)[服務(wù)處] (0) 投訴

P:2008-01-23 09:18:58

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拙見,有不對的地方請多包涵!

特性阻抗是根據(jù)實際情況確定的一個額定數(shù)值,在確定特性阻抗的時候要考慮多方面的因數(shù):

1.傳輸功率,距離與傳輸條件

比如網(wǎng)絡(luò)線,水晶頭的插孔就決定了線的絕緣外徑應(yīng)該在0.9-1.05之間(近似),太大太小都對裝配有影響.當(dāng)絕緣外徑確定了后,然后需要驗證的是傳輸?shù)墓β?如果傳輸功率達(dá)不到,當(dāng)然就行把導(dǎo)體截面加大了,到時水晶頭都得改了.想一下,水晶頭要是有拳頭那么大那是什么效果,呵呵.再下一步就是考慮傳輸?shù)木嚯x了,要傳輸遠(yuǎn)點衰減就得小點,截面就得大點.導(dǎo)體電阻就得小點.當(dāng)然,如果局域網(wǎng)100米就夠了,就不用那么大那么好的導(dǎo)體了.還有,這些沒有先后的,你當(dāng)然可以先確定功率再算外徑的了.

2.適配問題

比如同軸電纜,接線端子是75OHM的,如果你用100OHM的同軸線,阻抗就不匹配了,翻翻那年代的物理都有了,傳輸有功功率是在阻抗匹配的情況下達(dá)到最大.

3.結(jié)構(gòu)尺寸,材料及經(jīng)濟(jì)性

假如根據(jù)傳輸功率,傳輸距離確定了導(dǎo)體的直徑是0.5mm的銅,然后就要確定絕緣材料,絕緣材料理論上當(dāng)然是介電常數(shù)越小越好了,但是要太小了你就做不出來了,因為要達(dá)到規(guī)定的特性阻抗值,絕緣厚度就小得一蹋糊涂了.當(dāng)然要是可能的話,可以把特性阻抗規(guī)定得大點.不過設(shè)計電纜是要考慮經(jīng)濟(jì)性的,也就是說在滿足使用的情況下,盡量省錢,這些都做到了,特性阻抗就出來了.

另外后面那個公差值,是根據(jù)傳輸?shù)男Ч驮O(shè)備的加工能力確定的.如果公差太大了,傳輸不穩(wěn)定了,誤碼率高了.掉包多了就麻煩了,公差小了,可能你的導(dǎo)體外徑或者絕緣公差就只能控制在0.000001mm了,那是你不可能做到的.包括進(jìn)口的機(jī)器.

不知道IEC是咋確定的,也不知道說對了沒有,呵呵.

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mlship 獎勵 20 金幣,.1 聲望,于 2008-1-23 10:31:28 原因:

non-metallic central element - 無金屬中心元件 (0) 投訴

P:2008-01-23 09:57:55

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謝謝給位回答!我知道特性阻抗和R、L、C、W有關(guān)系,但是還是不太清楚特性阻抗100是怎么確定的

gas chromatographic analysis - 氣體色層分析法 (0) 投訴

P:2008-01-23 12:34:29

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根據(jù)電氣性測試發(fā)現(xiàn)

最大功率處理能力在 線材30 ohms時

最小信號衰減能力在 線材77 ohms時

50 ohms是“歉容”的最佳選擇

既可降低衰減又可處理高功率信號

因此大部分高頻微波系統(tǒng)選擇 50 ohms

而HDMI/DVI 等是采用雙線差分傳輸

故將特性阻抗標(biāo)準(zhǔn)值定為 100 ohms

阻抗過大過小最直接體現(xiàn)的是阻抗匹配導(dǎo)致return loss增大

從而影響產(chǎn)品的傳輸性能

rewinding machine - 復(fù)繞機(jī) (0) 投訴

P:2008-01-23 15:09:03

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樓上這個理論我強(qiáng)烈支持!能再清楚點就好了.

single star quad cable - 單星絞電纜 (0) 投訴

P:2008-01-23 19:14:34

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這個可能有點用:<轉(zhuǎn)>

<DIV>The History Of 50 ohms

A lot of people ask, so here's the answer to the eternal question, "How did 50 ohms get to be the standard RF transmission line impedance?" Here are a few stories. Bird Electronics will send you a printed copy of their version if you ask for it. This from Harmon Banning of W.L. Gore & Associates, Inc. cable:There are probably lots of stories about how 50 Ohms came to be. The one I am most familiar goes like this. In the early days of microwaves - around World War II, impedances were chosen depending on the application. For maximum power handling, somewhere between 30 and 44 Ohms was used. On the other hand, lowest attenuation for an air filled line was around 93 Ohms. In those days, there were no flexible cables, at least for higher frequencies, only rigid tubes with air dielectric. Semi-rigid cable came about in the early 50's, while real microwave flex cable was approximately 10 years later.Somewhere along the way it was decided to standardize on a given impedance so that economy and convenience could be brought into the equation. In the US, 50 Ohms was chosen as a compromise. There was a group known as JAN, which stood for Joint Army and Navy who took on these matters. They later became DESC, for Defense Electronic Supply Center, where the MIL specs evolved. Europe chose 60 Ohms. In reality, in the US, since most of the "tubes" were actually existing materials consisting of standard rods and water pipes, 51.5 Ohms was quite common. It was amazing to see and use adapter/converters to go from 50 to 51.5 Ohms. Eventually, 50 won out, and special tubing was created (or maybe the plumbers allowed their pipes to change dimension slightly).Further along, the Europeans were forced to change because of the influence of companies such as Hewlett-Packard which dominated the world scene. 75 Ohms is the telecommunications standard, because in a dielectric filled line, somewhere around 77 Ohms gives the lowest loss. (Cable TV) 93 Ohms is still used for short runs such as the connection between computers and their monitors because of low capacitance per foot which would reduce the loading on circuits and allow longer cable runs.Volume 9 of the MIT Rad Lab Series has some greater details of this for those interested. It has been reprinted by Artech House and is available.
</DIV>

D.D.D.S. - Die Diameter Dialling System撥號配模系統(tǒng) (0) 投訴

P:2008-01-25 13:33:06

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十樓做的解釋很好啊!

特性阻抗增大對數(shù)字通信電纜的各種傳輸特性都有影響,影響嚴(yán)重的就應(yīng)該是回波阻抗。

 

set-top - 上部調(diào)諧 (0) 投訴

P:2008-01-25 14:57:23

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guodong:

十樓做的解釋很好啊!

特性阻抗增大對數(shù)字通信電纜的各種傳輸特性都有影響,影響嚴(yán)重的就應(yīng)該是回波阻抗。

 兄弟你說的不對!

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hand-wheel - 手輪 (0) 投訴

P:2008-01-25 15:05:07

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12樓的斑竹給了答案!

1.gives the lowest loss. 

2.reduce the loading on circuits and allow longer cable runs

所以這個阻抗啊,是有點來歷的.呵呵

stirrup - 卡,箍;夾鉗 (0) 投訴

P:2008-01-26 08:30:43

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樓上的師兄好!

剛畢業(yè)出來,很多地方不懂,錯的地方還望多多指教。

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